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	<title>Comments on: Why project managers get no respect</title>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article and some of the responses act as if the job of the project manager is to make the team members&#039; lives easier.  I also see complaints of micro-management.  The entire PM methodology, no matter which one you are using, is indeed micro-management.  The PM&#039;s job isn&#039;t to take the boring meeting bullet for the team.  The PM&#039;s job is to deliver the value of the project back to the organization on time and within budget.  That value should deliver one of three things to the business that commissioned the project:  increased revenue, lower costs, or compliance with governmental regulations.  

I agree with your assertion that PM&#039;s should define themselves by outcomes instead of process.  However, the process by which the valued outcome is achieved is generally micro-management.  If it weren&#039;t needed then the all-knowing developers could simply figure out their own requirements, run the testing with the users, report on the progress of their coding to the primary stakeholders who are paying their paychecks, negotiate change requests and how that will affect the delivery, order the infrastructure and test systems to test their code on, haggle with the vendors to get the best prices, ride herd on the subcontractors who haven&#039;t delivered on time... oh, I guess perhaps a PM does add some value after all.  

I get tired of the prima donna attitude of the developers as well.  I didn&#039;t mean for this to turn negative, but as a PM, I have to say that I&#039;ve been on the engineering side.  I&#039;ve learned that the colleges are pumping out great developers and with a flooded market, the price of development goes down.  Seems like I&#039;ve read that somewhere before.  Hmmm.

Without people skills, nothing gets done.  The Sales department still rules the organization.  I take the advice to heart about being committed to the output instead of the process.  When we can get that part right, we&#039;ll all remember that we are part of the same team trying deliver value, grow the organization, and thus secure our paychecks by satisfying the ultimate customers.  The PM&#039;s do play a vital role, whether that role is respected or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article and some of the responses act as if the job of the project manager is to make the team members&#8217; lives easier.  I also see complaints of micro-management.  The entire PM methodology, no matter which one you are using, is indeed micro-management.  The PM&#8217;s job isn&#8217;t to take the boring meeting bullet for the team.  The PM&#8217;s job is to deliver the value of the project back to the organization on time and within budget.  That value should deliver one of three things to the business that commissioned the project:  increased revenue, lower costs, or compliance with governmental regulations.  </p>
<p>I agree with your assertion that PM&#8217;s should define themselves by outcomes instead of process.  However, the process by which the valued outcome is achieved is generally micro-management.  If it weren&#8217;t needed then the all-knowing developers could simply figure out their own requirements, run the testing with the users, report on the progress of their coding to the primary stakeholders who are paying their paychecks, negotiate change requests and how that will affect the delivery, order the infrastructure and test systems to test their code on, haggle with the vendors to get the best prices, ride herd on the subcontractors who haven&#8217;t delivered on time&#8230; oh, I guess perhaps a PM does add some value after all.  </p>
<p>I get tired of the prima donna attitude of the developers as well.  I didn&#8217;t mean for this to turn negative, but as a PM, I have to say that I&#8217;ve been on the engineering side.  I&#8217;ve learned that the colleges are pumping out great developers and with a flooded market, the price of development goes down.  Seems like I&#8217;ve read that somewhere before.  Hmmm.</p>
<p>Without people skills, nothing gets done.  The Sales department still rules the organization.  I take the advice to heart about being committed to the output instead of the process.  When we can get that part right, we&#8217;ll all remember that we are part of the same team trying deliver value, grow the organization, and thus secure our paychecks by satisfying the ultimate customers.  The PM&#8217;s do play a vital role, whether that role is respected or not.</p>
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		<title>By: The Accidental Project Manager – Part 1 &#171; Fear No Project &#8211; A Project Management Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Accidental Project Manager – Part 1 &#171; Fear No Project &#8211; A Project Management Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of project management as a profession and not just a glorified administrator in his thought piece, Why Project Managers Get No Respect. Scott suggests that to gain respect for project management, PMs should focus on achieving and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: O Mundo Mudou &#124; finito</title>
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		<dc:creator>O Mundo Mudou &#124; finito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] um artigo anterior Berkun já havia comentado sua impressão de que o Gerenciamento de Projetos não é muito [...]</p>
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