JohnO: But what is someone supposed to do who wants to slow these negative feedback loops down?
If I’m critical of twitter, or even blogging, it’s that the tools don’t make it easy to put the brakes on.
Then again, nothing stops someone from leaving a comment that says: “I think your facts are bogus. Can you back them up please?”
I disagree. I think that it’s very easy to detect bullshit when you are operating from a position of good faith desire to correctly perceive objective reality.
Mike: That’s easy for you to say because you are super smart :)
But I know I’m not entirely clear the reality I perceive is objective. In fact when I seem most rational is when I catch myself being unobjective and go out of my way to try and see the opposing view before opening my mouth.
Checking your own work requires time. Making a gap between typing the words, then re-reading and questioning what is fact and what is opinion or a personal theory. Only the facts can be checked. How much to check, to what level, is a personal decision, but also dependent on the medium. For twitter, perhaps a couple of breaths break between typing, then re-reading and sending. For a reference book, possibly weeks and months and assistance from others to check facts.
Not sure about checking what I read. I try to read with a certain amount of sceptism or questioning but I’m probably blinkered by my own assumptions and bias.
unlikeable term but somehow related “Personal Analytics” http://www.thinkoutsidein.com/blog/2009/08/personal-analytics/
I agree. I once got duped by this: http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/stock-logos-copyright-twitter/ and even twittered support for the artist before I realised facts are not really in support of the artist.
I try to be objective in anything that is serious, but if it is something humorous I just go with the flow – even if it turns out to be not true, at least it did make me laugh!
Don’t know that I have the answer, but I do have some thoughts on it.
I guess I liken it to face to face conversations. We all have a built in ability to detect bullshit, its just that in some of us its atrophied. If you really seeking the truth, and tuned in to your gut as you listen, I agree with Mike:, the bullshit is readily apparent.
Its also critical to not think of yourself as The Expert; even if you are an experienced voice in the field. That old saw, beginners mind applies here.
This fascination with “being right” is what creates a lot of the problems. Those who are interested in getting to the heart of the matter aren’t concerned about being the source of the solution, but instead the source of the conversation to which they can contribute to discovering the solution.
A wise bartender I worked with in my salad days said “to go faster, slow down”. This perception of “things moving fast” on the web is really only partly true. The stuff that sticks, that works, that has quality, has depth, moves slowly like it always has. The news about those things might ping around at lightspeed, but the subject of those things doesn’t have to.
Doesn’t that fact that one is perceiving objective reality introduce the element of subjectivity?
“Which is strange given how successful the web has been at making volume of information moot.”
Perhaps, but what it definitely hasn’t made moot is the rate of output of information. If anything you could argue that it has increased it.
When it comes to newsy-type content, people use freshness as a sign of quality–the assumption is that today’s newspaper will have a more accurate take on Story X than yesterday’s newspaper.
The problem is that while this is often true on the timescale of weeks or days, it breaks down at the level of hours or minutes. An hour can be enough to add useful information, but 5 minutes usually just expands the pool of rumor.
A more cynical take on this would be that people consume news purely or primarily as entertainment, in which case each additional unit of rumor is enjoyed as much as the one before it.
Either way, as a media producer trying to obtain and hold a viewer’s attention, the incentive to keep pumping out content is high.
Colin wrote:
“A more cynical take on this would be that people consume news purely or primarily as entertainment”
I think this is definitely true. Have you ever read Amusing ourselves to Death?.
In that book Postman argues that modern television news is entirely designed as entertainment – and since the 70s we’ve been trained away from seeking substantive news. It’s a great book. I don’t agree with all of it, but many of his points work for other media than TV.
If the problem is fact checking every possible piece of info, then the solution has to be selecting “trusted” sources.
Figuring out who to trust is a problem itself… For example, journalists would have us believe they and their system are trustworthy. But they are having a tough time getting people to believe that message and, IMO, value it appropriately.
Personally, I’ll start reading only your blog, Scott. Can you expand your scope to international news? ;)
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I definitely understand the pressure the feedback loop creates. Playing catch-up is no fun. There is no substitute other than to put your head down and spend lots of time. If there was a shortcut, you’d quickly be spotted once you’re in an arena with people who know what they’re talking about. They can smell BS too.