Scott Berkun

Q&A from webcast on public speaking

We had about 500 people in the webcast today about the new book, Confessions of a Public Speaker – as promised here are all of the questions asked in the chat room during the talk, with answers and some snarky commentary.

Slides from the talk here (3MB PDF). Actual webcast here (youtube).

Here are all the questions I pulled from the chat room transcript.

Q: When you started out, did you enjoy speaking in public?

A: Definitely No. Don’t know many who would say yes. I did it because I had ideas, and worked as a leader on projects, and speaking was essential to helping those ideas and projects survive. I started to enjoy it only once I realized how much I sucked at it – then I worked to get better at it, and learned how little it took to do better than most people, and to find the challenge of it interesting. As I said in the webcast, and the book, the bar is quite low. Most people are really bad at doing this. Putting effort in shows easily.

Q: (Mary Treseler) what is your next book about?

A: That’s easy, how not to answer questions from your editor while doing a webcast :)

Q: Do you think there are big differences between face to face public speaking and online public speaking (like today’s)?

A: The core things of rhythm, being interesting, and practice are the same.  The main difference is audience participation and real time feedback is much harder. When online there’s much less feedback and it’s much harder for me to respond, which I don’t like. The plus is I don’t have to go anywhere to do it and I can do it in a t-shirt :)

Q: Suggestions for panelists in panel discussions?  Panel format always seems difficult for all involved.

A: Oh, yes. See Why Panels suck and what to do about it.

Q: Do jokes help a presentation?

A: Probably not. Unless you’re very funny, which you probably aren’t. I’d never actually tell a joke like “A man walks into a bar and…” It’s just too corny and hard to pull off. But being funny, or using funny examples is usually a win. Takes a lot of practice and confidence to know when and how to do it though.

Q: What do you think about right before you are about to speak?

It depends. If it’s just me speaking for an hour, I’m not very worried. I have plenty of time and flexibility which relaxes me. In this case if I’m prepared I’m usually observing the audience, the other speakers, just trying to enjoy the ride. If it’s something big (1000+ people) and tight (1o minutes), like say a keynote at Web 2.0 expo, then it’s way more stressful. I won’t have time to feel out the audience and I’m on short fuse. Then I’m mostly trying not to think about it, trust in my practice and just enjoy whatever happens.

Q: Have you ever made a talk interactive?

A: All the time. I teach university courses, workshops, etc. Interactive is ideal for teaching, but doesn’t scale well beyond 30/50 people.  And often people to talks because they want to be passive – they want a 30/40min thing to mostly watch.  There’s an entire chapter in the book  (Chapter 9) about teaching and it talks about many of these issues.

Q: How do you make a talk interactive?

Two easy ways. First, give people work to do. An exercise, a challenge, a puzzle. Put the focus on them and their ability to do something. Second, Have parts of your talk that are easily made into a dialog. Give them a situation, ask them to think about what they would do, and then let them volunteer some of their solutions. Even easier is just to ask for a show of hands now and then, in answer to a question – this can also help you understand your audience. Chapter 9 of the book talks about all this and about teaching, as opposed to lecturing.

Q: Isn’t it better to use fewer slides — and to keep those slides simple — so the audience pays more attention to what you SAY than what they SEE?

A: Generally yes, but there are some exceptions. If I have a technical audience and technical topic, showing code samples or blueprints might require some more complex stuff. But as long as the slides support the points and the things I’m saying over them, it can work.  Also a presentation about design, or architecture, or engineering might demand complex visuals that spoken word can not do justice to alone.  It’s a universal challenge in all design – to figure out how to be as simple as necessary, but no simpler.

Q: Hecklers are uncommon, but what about the questioner who wants to prove how smart they are?

A: Hecklers, ramblers and dozens of other situations are covered in the book in a chapter called “What to do when things go wrong”. The advice is often the same – generally the audience hates these people as much as you do. If they go past 30/45 seconds, interupt and say “I’m sorry, can you form this into a question?” If they stumble or they can’t, say “Ok, think about it and I’ll get back to you” and move on to the next question. Be Phil Donahue. Be the host. The audience wants you to be in control, not mean, but to keep things moving in the general interest.

Q: How do you deal with a hostile audience?

A: Truly hostile audiences are rare unless you are in politics or in a punk rock band. Hostile audiences are passionate and it should be easier to know what interests them or what they want to hear (or not) and use that to your advantage. Chapter 4 in the book is all about this, it’s titled How to work a tough room.

Q: (Carrie asked) with things like Slide share, so many people are focusing on the slides as the communication medium instead of the presentation

A: True, but you can always find a sweet spot. If the slides serve two different purposes, accept that it won’t be ideal for either, but can be a workable compromise. Or create a simpler version of the deck you use for presenting, and a more detailed one, with more bulleted-list type info slides, you use for distribution.

Q: (Sandro) Oh, come on, sitting around and listening has always been an important part of primate existence

A: Primates did not sit and listen in 100 or 200 person lecture halls as we’re often are asked to do in college or in conferences, in dimly lit, boring conference halls. A fireside chat or meal with 5 people is very different brain function-wise than sitting passively in a lecture.

Q: If you have to put more than 5 bullet points on a slide, the least you can do is animate them to keep the audience’s interest.

Animations are almost always a distraction  If I’m telling a story you care about, I don’t need to animate a thing, the story animates enough. When you asked your spouse to marry you, did you need flyouts and animations? No. The content was interesting enough all on its own. Flyouts and whizzy whiz bang things are almost never used by anyone you’d call a good presenter. Their material and pace keeps people’s attention, not their use of powerpoint/Keynote tricks. Simplicity rules. If you need a list, show the list. Don’t distract me every 15 seconds by making another thing appear, fly dance or disappear. Spend that time making your points, stories and understanding of why I’m sitting in the audience stronger.

Q: What do you do when you can’t think of JUST the right word?

A: No one cares as much as you that you get the right word. It’s probably ok to just move on. Spoken language is full of context, they probably know what you mean without the specific word. Or ask the audience if they can guess the word – they may know it. And even if they don’t it will get the attention off of you for a moment which might help you get your composure back.

Question: What about the ethics of someone with minor experience borrowing a highly knowledgeable persons slide show – beginning with attribution and then other associates using it without attribution.

A: I suppose it’s up to the person who made the deck. If they’re ok, then fine. If they’re not ok, then it’s a kind of theft. Never seen this done though. With a slide or two, sure, but never a whole presentation. I’m hoping you’re not getting any ideas :)

Q: How do you handle speaking on a topic where the audience members are all at a different skill/experience level regarding the topic?

A: I’d confirm this was true. Typically things are aimed at a specific audience. If it’s meant to be general, that should be reflected in the title and description. If it’s meant to be basic, same thing. If you truly have a wide range, aim for the sweet spot. Cover the basics but find a new way, or new data, or a new story that will keep the interest of the veterans. If you cover the basics well, you should be able to move on to more advanced stuff and have them follow along.

Q: How do you brainstorm on paper? Do you just write an outline, do mindmaps, draw slides, just collect thoughts?

Presentation Zen goes into more detail on this than my book does.  There is no one way to do this. You will have to experiment and learn which process works best for you. I mostly work with simple lists,which I describe in chapter 5 of the book. I list out my possible points, flesh out how I might make them, and once the list is strong enough I start making a slide deck. Honestly, I think the most important thing is simply not starting in Keynote or Powerpoint. If you do any work in any other form it will radically increase the quality of what you make when, and if, you do use those tools.

Q: I think many audiences expect slides to be a manual. Conflicts w/ my desire to make ‘em sparse & graphic. Your thoughts?

It’s probably a good idea to do what you’re audience wants you to do, no? :)  In truth, audiences respond to your points.  There an infinite number of ways to make a point and all they care is that the way you do it works for them. If you can be effective with simple, smart, slides, awesome. But if your audiences have trouble following, and you are not effective, then more involved slides are warranted. Some points are best made visually. Others, with data. Some with a story, and now and then only through an exercise or challenge you give the crowd.  As a speaker you’re best served by making these choices based on how to make the point in the best way possible, rather than your overall style preferences.  Also, different audiences expect different presenting styles and you should at least be aware when your style differs from what they expect.

Q: How do you get back a room that you are “losing?”

A: There isn’t much you can do it real time. It’s very hard to judge how well you’re doing. I’ve had days I thought I was awesome where the feedback was I sucked, and vice versa. Sometimes they’re just tired, they’ve had a long day or something else is going on. So don’t take it too personally. If things really feel bad, I might skip a section and try to get to the Q&A faster. The Q&A makes it much easier to diagnose what’s going on and do something about it. I might even say “Look, I know you came here to for a reason. To learn a specific thing or hear a question answered. If I didn’t give that to you yet, I’d love to try now. What did you hope I would talk about?”

Q: what suggestions do you have for someone who’s co-speaking? It’s not a panel, but a shared presentation

A: Have you ever seen one of these that was done well? Not sure I have. Usually the talk is divided into parts that serve the speakers, not the audience. If you have to do it, make sure it seems as much like one coherent experience.  1) Build on each others points 2) Watch each other present their material at least once (so you can note redundancies or contradictions you don’t want, as well as anticipate and borrow stuff from the other person), 3) Practice making your handoffs smoothly.

Q: how do you manage you tone and keep upbeat and not drop off “your excited voice”?

A: This depends on me caring about my material. If I don’t care, this is impossible. If I do care, and passionately believe in what I’m saying, it’s much easier. Knowing I have a chance to help someone, to teach a good idea, or share something important with others is a powerful force and when I look into a crowd that feeling rises easily for me. I don’t want to waste their time. And if I’m enthusiastic I know odds are better that I won’t.

Q: How do you deal with embarrassing disruptive technical screwups?

A: The easy way is to rely on less technology. If I build my material right, I can do much of it without any technology at all. I think this is true of many good talks and presenters. The other way to go is to get their early and ask for a runthrough. If I know there’s a problem 20 minutes before I start, I have options. If I discover a problem in the moment, I have few choices. As a rule, you can always move on. The audience won’t know what they missed, and rather than watch you do tech-support for ten minutes, it’s better to move on.

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You can grab two chapters from the book, for free, by going right here.

I make my living from the books, so if you enjoyed the free webcast, I hope you’ll check the book out, or spread the word to others that it’s out and getting great reviews.

If somehow I missed your question, or you have a new one, or you weren’t even on the webcast and want to ask a question anyway, go right ahead. I’ll answer!

• Posted Wednesday, December 2nd, 2009 at 1:50 pm


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